Subject: I: Tate event Sent: 22-02-1920 5:13 Received: 21-02-2001 16:07 From: Cesare Pietroiusti, cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net To: Caroline Bachmann, jonas@libero.it signore@undo.net, signore@undo.net Emilio Fantin, bom1790@iperbole.bologna.it amici, questa l'ho ricevuta oggi; un paio di giorni fa avevo parlato con martin e fatto capire a lui che, se la nostra proposta non va bene, sta a loro farne una e poi chiederci di partecipare, piuttosto che darci l'onere di organizzarla noi. ho anche parlato oggi al telefono piutosto a lungo con dominic; mi sembrato positivo, per a questo punto orientato a 1) disconnetere l'evento dalla mostra dell'arte povera alla tate (e mi sembra giusto); di conseguenza rimandarlo a fine ottobre (e anche questo, a questo punto, mi sembra giusto). 2) organizzare loro, magari seguendo qualche nostro suggerimento, un evento abbastanza informale, ma centrato sui gruppi, sulle strategie, sugli scambi di comunicazioni ecc, e meno interessato ad esplorare pratiche individuali di lavoro (questa, almeno, la mia impressione). 3) lavorare, nel frattempo a individuare qualche tema-chiave e altri posibili invitati, e definire qualcosa verso aprile-maggio. a questo punto vediamo cosa succede; per direi di usare questa occasione per fare una riflessione fra noi, magari a marzo (non troppe persone, senn non si conclude niente), sul cosa fare in generale, in questi o in simili casi. razionalmente penso che va bene cos; emotivamente no. per potrebbero esserci altri fattori... un abbraccio, cesare -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Dominic Willsdon A: 'Cesare Pietroiusti' Cc: Martin Clark (E-mail) Data: marted 20 febbraio 2001 11.59 Oggetto: Tate event Dear Cesare, I got your phone messages Cesare, sorry we haven't been able to talk yet. Martin and I talked on Monday, he said you two had discussed things. I agree that the best plan is to have an event that involves participants from different groups, and that sets out to explore: the reasons why there is this contemporary phenomenon of artists' groups working at the limits of established institutions, what they have in common, how they respond to their different contexts, etc. I am strongly in favour of organising such an event. However - and here I have to apologise to Martin, because I've changed my mind since yesterday - I don't think we should do this in June. If it is not connected to Arte Povera, there's no need to have it in June when there are already too many events programmed; and I don't think any of us have enough time to get this sorted out now (since the deadline for copy was last Friday). So let us think about a proposal for this for October or November. Sorry this isn't going to happen when we thought, but it is something I want to do (as Martin knows), and I am looking forward to discussing it more. best wishes Dominic -----Original Message----- From: Cesare Pietroiusti [mailto:cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net] Sent: 14 February 2001 21:52 To: Dominic Willsdon Subject: R: little corrections hi dominic, frankly, I think I understand your doubts. is there a way we can speak at the telephone? what about friday? can you give me a number and a moment when I can call you (consider I am in new york)? ciao, cesare -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Dominic Willsdon A: 'Cesare Pietroiusti' Cc: Martin Clark ; Emilio Fantin ; Norese Giancarlo ; Caroline Bachmann ; Honor Harger Data: mercoled 14 febbraio 2001 11.45 Oggetto: RE: little corrections Dear Cesare, I have to say that I have been thinking further about this and I am not yet confident that we have enough focus. I am not yet clear how what will take place will involve the public, or how in very practical ways it will BE public. For example: are we offering food to the 3,000 people who will be gallery that day. In general: what is the intellectual focus and how will it be addressed? I am not sure we have much of a proposal here, beyond what was originally sketched. I don't mind postponing this till a later stage, but let me give you the weekend and then see what the situation is on Monday. Sorry about this, but I have to know what I am doing with public money. Dominic -----Original Message----- From: Cesare Pietroiusti [mailto:cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net] Sent: 14 February 2001 18:23 To: Dominic Willsdon Cc: Martin Clark; Emilio Fantin; Norese Giancarlo; Caroline Bachmann; Honor Harger Subject: R: little corrections dear dominic, I think your press release is ok; probably you have a better sense of how a title for such event should be. it's also ok to put names afterwards, once we have decided who will be the other participants, and in which form each one will participate.. but we definetely would prefer the "east room" space that, given your description, seems to be absolutely appropriate for the event. don't you agree? ciao, cesare -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Dominic Willsdon A: 'Cesare Pietroiusti' Cc: Martin Clark ; Emilio Fantin ; Norese Giancarlo ; Caroline Bachmann ; Honor Harger Data: marted 13 febbraio 2001 9.46 Oggetto: RE: little corrections >Cesare (and everyone), >I was just about to send out this revision of your earlier draft (below), >when I got your last message. Title: I am not that keen on the perfect day >title, the Oreste bit has to be added to distinguish it from other days at >the Tate (perfect or otherwise), and then the thing gets a bit clumsy. I >suppose the only other question is whether we want to include names. I know >I suggested originally that we did, but perhaps we need not do so. We can >produce a flyer nearer the time with more details, including names. >Dominic > >Sat 19 June >McAulay Studio B >10.30-21.30 >A Day with Oreste >Oreste is an international network, initiated by Italian artists, that >organises itself as open residencies and other events (including >participation in the 1999 Venice Biennale). 'A Day with Oreste' aims to >create conditions where artists, curators, other cultural practitioners, and >the public, can meet in a context that combines work and pleasure. Artists >and groups will be invited to bring or send material about their own >practice - or food, drink and other things relating to their local context - >or otherwise to participate via the internet. The event provides an >opportunity to show and discuss practices concerned with communication, new >collective strategies, the relations between private and public, formal and >informal, and the ways in which 'formless' network institutions gather >themselves, temporarily, as events. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cesare Pietroiusti [mailto:cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net] >Sent: 13 February 2001 16:24 >To: Dominic Willsdon >Cc: Martin Clark; Emilio Fantin; Norese Giancarlo; Caroline Bachmann >Subject: little corrections > > >hi dominic, >just quick corrections to my previous message. >at the end the five names should be put as follows: >projects and coordination by: Caroline Bachmann, Martin Clark etc. > >the title we like more is "A Perfect Day at Tate" (or at the Tate; or at >Tate Modern...); it could be something like "Oreste Projects" (maybe somehow >smaller) followed by "A Perfect Day at Tate". >let us know what do you think, >cesare >